Posts by Brokeback Watchtower

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What can the leadership at Watchtower do to turn things around?

by UnshackleTheChains in

let's play devils advocate here.. put yourself in the governing body's shoes.

they are well aware of all the issues they are facing.

they know their numbers (they 'do the math' as they say in the us).

Brokeback Watchtower

I think the Governing Body already see the writing on the wall so to speak and are taking moves right now to liquidate assets at a pace that doesn't raise too many alarms and they have no one left to watch over their Kingdom Hall properties before they are eventually all sold. They have to start off gradually now so as to keep the faithful under control but soon it will pick up pace and these GB have no alternative but to replace the motto: "Advertise, Advertise Adverise" with "Sell Sell Sell"!

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October 31, 2017 TO SELECTED BOEs IN THE US BRANCH TERRITORY Re: Discontinuation of the Funds-on-Deposit Arrangement

by wifibandit in

october 31, 2017 to selected bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: discontinuation of the funds-on-deposit arrangement.

Brokeback Watchtower

All that has happened lately shows very clearly they are in deep trouble financially: all the sell offs, robbing the congregations of their funds by directives to make certain resolutions that must be obeyed and all the halted construction projects.

Pretty soon the Circuit Overseers job will be gone or replaced with something that don't drain any funds. And when that happens all hell will break loose because control of what happens at the meetings will vanish and a bit of free thinking will gradually seep into the congos.

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Thus Spoke Zarathustra - audiobook

by Brokeback Watchtower in

nietzsche wrote this 1883-1891 a parable about the death of god and prophesizes about the superman.

moral responsibility/universality is questioned in depth, altruistic concern, guilt for wrongdoing, moral responsibility, the value of compassion, the demand for equal consideration of persons, was examined by this soon to be insane(1889) intellectual philosopher.. cg jung says that nietzsche was under the possession of an archetype from the collective unconscious and i think a closer examination suggest this is true.. http://www.depthinsights.com/depth-insights-scholarly-ezine/e-zine-issue-3-fall-2012/jungs-reception-of-friedrich-nietzsche-a-roadmap-for-the-uninitiated-by-dr-ritske-rensma/.

with this in mind here is the reading in english :.

Brokeback Watchtower

Nietzsche wrote this 1883-1891 a parable about the death of God and prophesizes about the superman. Moral responsibility/universality is questioned in depth, altruistic concern, guilt for wrongdoing, moral responsibility, the value of compassion, the demand for equal consideration of persons, was examined by this soon to be insane(1889) intellectual philosopher.

CG Jung says that Nietzsche was under the possession of an archetype from the collective unconscious and I think a closer examination suggest this is true.

http://www.depthinsights.com/Depth-Insights-scholarly-ezine/e-zine-issue-3-fall-2012/jungs-reception-of-friedrich-nietzsche-a-roadmap-for-the-uninitiated-by-dr-ritske-rensma/

With this in mind here is the reading in English :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv5IyRuEVI4

Nietzsche is arguably most famous for his criticisms of traditional European moral commitments, together with their foundations in Christianity. This critique is very wide-ranging; it aims to undermine not just religious faith or philosophical moral theory, but also many central aspects of ordinary moral consciousness, some of which are difficult to imagine doing without (e.g., altruistic concern, guilt for wrongdoing, moral responsibility, the value of compassion, the demand for equal consideration of persons, and so on).

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Brooklyn Daily Eagle: Jehovah's Witnesses sell The Towers, a storied Brooklyn Heights hotel

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2017/11/1/jehovahs-witnesses-sell-towers-storied-brooklyn-heights-hotel.

jehovah's witnesses sell the towers, a storied brooklyn heights hotel.

the jehovah's witnesses have sold the towers, a storied brooklyn heights hotel.

Brokeback Watchtower

Wow the Watchtower is in a money fix so bad that they have unloaded all their valuable property in Brooklyn NY and moved to live in the boonies on top of a leaking chemical dump full of PCB.

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/pcbs.html

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Does Following The Christian Precepts Of Truthfulness Lead To Nihilism?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

"i am the way and the truth" said jesus.

also "speak truth to you neighbor and put away false hood".. this reverence for truth in christianity also leads to its undoing in the information age of science and technology.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nihilism.

nihilism is often associated with the german philosopher friedrich nietzsche, who provided a detailed diagnosis of nihilism as a widespread phenomenon of western culture.

Brokeback Watchtower

Thanks for the link BP. I think it is along the same lines as our topic.

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Does Following The Christian Precepts Of Truthfulness Lead To Nihilism?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

"i am the way and the truth" said jesus.

also "speak truth to you neighbor and put away false hood".. this reverence for truth in christianity also leads to its undoing in the information age of science and technology.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nihilism.

nihilism is often associated with the german philosopher friedrich nietzsche, who provided a detailed diagnosis of nihilism as a widespread phenomenon of western culture.

Brokeback Watchtower

Cofty,

In(what) way do you think one leads to the other exactly?

I'm thinking that if one is a Christian and they take the bible seriously and they practice the parts about speaking and finding truth, then one would have to come to the conclusion that science disproves the bible claims that Yahwey created the earth 6,000+ years ago. Also since we are now in the instant information age and Christians are told to speak truth and seek truth this will eventually lead to a life which no longer believes that there is some universal meaning to life, instead one would have to find one's own personal meaning to life. Which is the type of nihilism I speaking of. No universal meaning just personal depending on what motivates you.

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Does Following The Christian Precepts Of Truthfulness Lead To Nihilism?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

"i am the way and the truth" said jesus.

also "speak truth to you neighbor and put away false hood".. this reverence for truth in christianity also leads to its undoing in the information age of science and technology.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nihilism.

nihilism is often associated with the german philosopher friedrich nietzsche, who provided a detailed diagnosis of nihilism as a widespread phenomenon of western culture.

Brokeback Watchtower

"I am the way and the truth" said Jesus. Also "speak truth to you neighbor and put away false hood".

This reverence for truth in Christianity also leads to its undoing in the information age of science and technology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

Nihilism is often associated with the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche, who provided a detailed diagnosis of nihilism as a widespread phenomenon of Western culture. Though the notion appears frequently throughout Nietzsche's work, he uses the term in a variety of ways, with different meanings and connotations. Karen Carr describes Nietzsche's characterization of nihilism "as a condition of tension, as a disproportion between what we want to value (or need) and how the world appears to operate."[24] When we find out that the world does not possess the objective value or meaning that we want it to have or have long since believed it to have, we find ourselves in a crisis.[25] Nietzsche asserts that with the decline of Christianity and the rise of physiological decadence,[clarification needed] nihilism is in fact characteristic of the modern age,[26] though he implies that the rise of nihilism is still incomplete and that it has yet to be overcome.[27] Though the problem of nihilism becomes especially explicit in Nietzsche's notebooks (published posthumously), it is mentioned repeatedly in his published works and is closely connected to many of the problems mentioned there.

Nietzsche characterized nihilism as emptying the world and especially human existence of meaning, purpose, comprehensible truth, or essential value. This observation stems in part from Nietzsche's perspectivism, or his notion that "knowledge" is always by someone of some thing: it is always bound by perspective, and it is never mere fact.[28] Rather, there are interpretations through which we understand the world and give it meaning. Interpreting is something we can not go without; in fact, it is something we need. One way of interpreting the world is through morality, as one of the fundamental ways that people make sense of the world, especially in regard to their own thoughts and actions. Nietzsche distinguishes a morality that is strong or healthy, meaning that the person in question is aware that he constructs it himself, from weak morality, where the interpretation is projected on to something external. Regardless of its strength, morality presents us with meaning, whether this is created or 'implanted,' which helps us get through life.[29]

Nietzsche discusses Christianity, one of the major topics in his work, at length in the context of the problem of nihilism in his notebooks, in a chapter entitled "European Nihilism".[30] Here he states that the Christian moral doctrine provides people with intrinsic value, belief in God (which justifies the evil in the world) and a basis for objective knowledge. In this sense, in constructing a world where objective knowledge is possible, Christianity is an antidote against a primal form of nihilism, against the despair of meaninglessness. However, it is exactly the element of truthfulness in Christian doctrine that is its undoing: in its drive towards truth, Christianity eventually finds itself to be a construct, which leads to its own dissolution. It is therefore that Nietzsche states that we have outgrown Christianity "not because we lived too far from it, rather because we lived too close".[31] As such, the self-dissolution of Christianity constitutes yet another form of nihilism. Because Christianity was an interpretation that posited itself as the interpretation, Nietzsche states that this dissolution leads beyond skepticism to a distrust of all meaning.[32][33]

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Polish EX-JW Activism compilation video

by WTS Archive in

i'd like to show you a short video i made about exjw activism in poland.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt3qdtyxgd8.

i'm one of the people responsible for those information campaigns/protests, so you can ask me anything you like.

there's a lot i didn't show on the video because of the limited time i have for editing, i have tons of footage more.

Brokeback Watchtower

Good job! Nice to see some well done picketing of the WT corporation. Maybe in the US this type of picketing might start up?

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Why is there such a 'high turnover' within the Jehovahs Witnesses?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i happened to come across a time article in 2008. it was basically talking about the high turnover in american faiths.

it mentioned the jdubs and highlighted the following point.. an even more extreme example of what might be called "masked churn" is the relatively tiny jehovah's witnesses, with a turnover rate of about two-thirds.

that means that two-thirds of the people who told pew they were raised jehovah's witnesses no longer are — yet the group attracts roughly the same number of converts.

Brokeback Watchtower

I kind of blasted my way out of the cult shortly after my mother died, since she was in the cult mind control of the Watchtower corporation I held off from revealing my new revelations for about 2 months until after I attended her JW funeral, from then on I no longer held back. I was convinced as of 2/2001 that the WT was bogus and she died 4/2001 soon after that due to slips of the tongue and a bunch of letter I sent to individuals, I was gunned down by a couple of law enforcement agents from the WTBS goon squad( elders).

So basically I was catapulted out of the mind control cult and stripped of any communications with my relatives stuck inside to get them out. Any limited contact I have is in strict obedience drum into them from the cult.

Jp,

I say while it may show a lack of courage to confront these issues about loyalty to the cult, it has its reasons that are important to individual and there for lacks any kind of negative judgement from me as being a coward. I think the word coward has been use by government propaganda to preach the faithful drones onto the battle field to fight for their country what ever that is. So I tend to stay away from it as a motivator and make myself hold off any negative judgements about a person's reasons for remaining incognito there are too many issues for me to pass judgement.

I think your definition of the courage very biased and one sided perhaps due to your cherry picking definitions that suit you. I'm other sure other definitions about being courageous exist that are less one sided and not used to authoritatively to prove a point to its readers.

So I recommend you allow room for persons handling their predicament with a bit of:" Don't criticize and abuse till you walked a mile in my shoes" as the song goes.

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Great music video from Apostate chick

by ToesUp in

https://youtu.be/cafygzb1geo.

maybe she can help out watchtower with their monthly videos.. great job.

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Brokeback Watchtower

Good timing! You got the rhythm girl.